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That table looks great for units! :D ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 15:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
That table looks great for units! :D ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 15:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks!  I wasn't sure how to re-work that redlink for the Oozium's unit type, so that table is my backup plan. =] — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8"><b>K</b></sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8"><b><small>C</small></b></span>]] 15:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks!  I wasn't sure how to re-work that redlink for the Oozium's unit type, so that table is my backup plan. =] — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 15:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


::I think that table works better than the one I created anyway, and we could always have the user do the unit type link manually, like <nowiki>type=[[Infantry]]</nowiki>? I definitely think we should use this one instead of mine; that grey background and border is great! ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 15:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think that table works better than the one I created anyway, and we could always have the user do the unit type link manually, like <nowiki>type=[[Infantry]]</nowiki>? I definitely think we should use this one instead of mine; that grey background and border is great! ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 15:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Always happy to help.  =)  I still have some ideas I want to try out with it, but hopefully I can change it over to a template soon.  That way, all we'll have to type for all that is <nowiki>{{AW units}}</nowiki> or something. — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 15:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I think you should add something in the lines of "<nowiki>| || colspan="6" style="background: #EFEFEF" | Land</nowiki>" for each "group" of unit (e.g. Land, Water, Air). The problem with that is that it breaks sorting, but maybe we don't even need sortable on the unit tables? By the way, I'll try and get sprites for those other units now, looks strange when half of the files are missing. ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 16:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Also, I think we should keep the system with header/entry/footer templates, since you may want to create a list of units for some other page, and not always the whole set of units for a given game, but the idea with game separate units would be good too (if that was what you meant by <nowiki>{{AW units}}</nowiki>. Also, forgive me for forgetting that the wiki is not only about Advance Wars; they're the only games of the Wars series I've played. Perhaps the way these lists are structured don't fit at all with [[Battalion Wars]]? ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 16:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Good point.  Actually, by <nowiki>{{AW units}}</nowiki>, I just meant the whole thing, but it would be easier to break it down if you're only concerned with smaller groups of units.  That's okay, I'm sort of the opposite of you; I've played both Battalion Wars games recently, and it's been longer since I fired up my Advance Wars - I guess that means we'll be able to complement each other's work.  With you working on the Advance Wars games, and me working on Battalion Wars, we should be able to cover all the info we need. — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 17:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I think I was a bit unclear with what I meant. I think having both broken-down parts of the table, as well as <nowiki>{{AW units}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{AW2 units}}</nowiki> and so on, so that it's easy to use both if you want all units of a game, or just stitch your own set of units together (for some reason, like a list of vehicular units or something). Also, yes, that's a good point, I'll try to take care of the Advance Wars games! ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 18:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
== Messages moved from my User:.../Sandbox page ==
...why on Earth is the Vision info floating? o_0  I have to run some errands, but I'll be back later tonight to tackle this. — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 20:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Huh, strange. I'll see if I can figure it out... ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 20:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Seems the source for the others are "<td> foo </td>", but for some reason the vision entry is surrounded by newlines instead :\. ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 20:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Ta-daa! :) ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 21:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::Haha, awesome! — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 21:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::: I think we should rename the parameters a bit, I think "name" and "type" would work better, since, well, each entry is about a unit anyway, so "unit-" is kind of implied, and I think it's more of a unit type rather than a terrain type. Also, I'll go to bed soon. ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 21:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Oh, attack range, that's nice! But I think "Atk" would work better, and I presume we take the longer of two weapons, if two are available? ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 21:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Not a problem, I was just thinking about renaming them a little.  Actually, I hadn't considered that some units have two weapons.  Maybe it should be the primary weapon range...?  Then again, we could split the Attack Range column into two, one for primary weapon, one for secondary. — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 21:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Great, I'll rename those parameters then. That's a great idea, to split the attack column in two. I love how you did with colspan in the "Unit" header, by the way, it looks great with the split between sprite and name! ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 21:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, and also, what's <b>{{{display}}}</b> in the entry template? ~[[User:FireFly|FireFly]] <sup>[[User talk:FireFly|t]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4px">[[Special:Contributions/FireFly|c]]</sub> 21:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I don't remember, actually...  It may not really be needed, but I'll leave it there for now. — [[User:KC-Earthshaker|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''K'''</sup>]][[User Talk:KC-Earthshaker|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''<small>C</small>'''</span>]] 22:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

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That table looks great for units! :D ~FireFly tc 15:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks! I wasn't sure how to re-work that redlink for the Oozium's unit type, so that table is my backup plan. =] — KC 15:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that table works better than the one I created anyway, and we could always have the user do the unit type link manually, like type=[[Infantry]]? I definitely think we should use this one instead of mine; that grey background and border is great! ~FireFly tc 15:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Always happy to help. =) I still have some ideas I want to try out with it, but hopefully I can change it over to a template soon. That way, all we'll have to type for all that is {{AW units}} or something. — KC 15:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think you should add something in the lines of "| || colspan="6" style="background: #EFEFEF" | Land" for each "group" of unit (e.g. Land, Water, Air). The problem with that is that it breaks sorting, but maybe we don't even need sortable on the unit tables? By the way, I'll try and get sprites for those other units now, looks strange when half of the files are missing. ~FireFly tc 16:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, I think we should keep the system with header/entry/footer templates, since you may want to create a list of units for some other page, and not always the whole set of units for a given game, but the idea with game separate units would be good too (if that was what you meant by {{AW units}}. Also, forgive me for forgetting that the wiki is not only about Advance Wars; they're the only games of the Wars series I've played. Perhaps the way these lists are structured don't fit at all with Battalion Wars? ~FireFly tc 16:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good point. Actually, by {{AW units}}, I just meant the whole thing, but it would be easier to break it down if you're only concerned with smaller groups of units. That's okay, I'm sort of the opposite of you; I've played both Battalion Wars games recently, and it's been longer since I fired up my Advance Wars - I guess that means we'll be able to complement each other's work. With you working on the Advance Wars games, and me working on Battalion Wars, we should be able to cover all the info we need. — KC 17:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think I was a bit unclear with what I meant. I think having both broken-down parts of the table, as well as {{AW units}}, {{AW2 units}} and so on, so that it's easy to use both if you want all units of a game, or just stitch your own set of units together (for some reason, like a list of vehicular units or something). Also, yes, that's a good point, I'll try to take care of the Advance Wars games! ~FireFly tc 18:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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...why on Earth is the Vision info floating? o_0 I have to run some errands, but I'll be back later tonight to tackle this. — KC 20:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Huh, strange. I'll see if I can figure it out... ~FireFly tc 20:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Seems the source for the others are " foo ", but for some reason the vision entry is surrounded by newlines instead :\. ~FireFly tc 20:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ta-daa! :) ~FireFly tc 21:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Haha, awesome! — KC 21:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think we should rename the parameters a bit, I think "name" and "type" would work better, since, well, each entry is about a unit anyway, so "unit-" is kind of implied, and I think it's more of a unit type rather than a terrain type. Also, I'll go to bed soon. ~FireFly tc 21:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, attack range, that's nice! But I think "Atk" would work better, and I presume we take the longer of two weapons, if two are available? ~FireFly tc 21:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not a problem, I was just thinking about renaming them a little. Actually, I hadn't considered that some units have two weapons. Maybe it should be the primary weapon range...? Then again, we could split the Attack Range column into two, one for primary weapon, one for secondary. — KC 21:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great, I'll rename those parameters then. That's a great idea, to split the attack column in two. I love how you did with colspan in the "Unit" header, by the way, it looks great with the split between sprite and name! ~FireFly tc 21:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, and also, what's {{{display}}} in the entry template? ~FireFly tc 21:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't remember, actually... It may not really be needed, but I'll leave it there for now. — KC 22:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]